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Level 5 and breaking in to HR

In April this year I obtained my CIPD L5 in HRM. I must have applied for over 150 HR Admin or assistant roles but keep getting rejected as I have no experience. I have many years as a team Manager where I would assist our HR teams with a whole host of HR admin duties alongside recruitment and selection, disciplinary hearings and absence management.

I am applying for entry level jobs as I do not expect a HR Management role. I want to start at the bottom and work my way up.

How can I do this when companies want experience? Surely you have to start somewhere!

Any help or advice or even an interview would be great.

I feel like I have wasted £3K of my money on something that may never happen. One HR manager who emailed me with a rejection said that my studying the CIPD qualification was a waste of my time and money.

I chose to study HR as it was something that i have been passionate about. I like helping people and nurturing their development and growth as an employee. It's deeply fulfilling.

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  • Hello
    I feel sorry for facing such frustration i understand how you might be feeling , am a full time student for MSc in HRM and I might be facing the similar problem in regard to the experience. But I would advice you maybe to volunteer in any company or go in as seeking for training . You never know what might happen.


    Good Luck!

    Chol Gatluak
  • Welcome to the communites

    Its a real challenge - no consolation but you are not alone - using the search throws up lots of threads or here

    Realistically it  a case of keeping plugging away - good luck

  • Whilst I disagree strongly with the manager who described your Lvl 5 as a waste of time and money, he's right in one respect: it's a poor form of preparation for someone looking to enter HR at ground level.

    Few CIPD courses will cover efficient personnel filing, the rapid back-of-a-***-packet calculation of residual holiday or how to back-track through six months of pay statements to work out whether you accidentally breached national minimum pay legislation, but that's the practical, day-to-day life of the HR administrator.

    Oddly, you may be aiming too low. If you have experience as a team manager, you are going to be more likely to find your way into HR through a parallel, internal step. Having a Lvl 5 qualification is a good professional foundation for people management in or out of HR, so it is likely to be more highly rated by someone looking for a general manager than for an HR specialist.

    From a management role, you can - once established - let your superiors know about your interest in pursuing HR more actively. In a good organization, this should open doors to get involved supporting relevant HR projects and working more closely with the HR team. Then, when a vacancy arises, you'll be well placed to step across and begin building that experience you'll need to build a new career in HR.

    Meanwhile, however, I have to agree with Keith. Keep plugging away for HR roles, but perhaps raise your sights somewhat from HR admin roles to ones more at the HR Advisor or Team Leader level, where your experience and qualifications will be more relevant. I have over a decade of experience in HR, a Lvl 7 qualification and Chartered Member status, but clocked up a similar number of failed applications in my own recent job hunting. It's a numbers game and the only way to lose is to quit!
  • Hi Daniel, welcome to the communities. Without wishing to sound like I'm belittling your situation I do feel your pain and remember all too well the struggles I faced when trying to get into HR. Plus there will be many forum members who will also be nodding in sympathy so while this does not help your situation please do bear in mind you are (unfortunately) not alone. A couple of thoughts of mine to supplement the excellent advice already given which is offered in a way to be helpful and thought-provoking:

    - I'm a tad concerned about the number of applications you have submitted - you don't state over what time period - and I wonder if this approach is more 'scattergun' than focused. Presumably your CV/application is tailored to suit the vacancy you are applying for? Whilst this is time consuming it pays dividends rather than send out a standard application so you may want to consider being rather more selective about the jobs you apply for and focus your efforts on ensuring your application matches the vacancy as closely as possible.

    - whilst you may have assisted with HR-related tasks is this really reflected in your CV? Unfortunately at entry level there will be lots of competition for vacancies so you do need to stand out from the crowd.

    - How is your CV structured? For each job previously held do you have a brief summary of the job requirements followed by a brief summary of your achievements to demonstrate you have reached targets, saved money, completed high volumes of X, etc.? Do you know someone you trust to give some feedback on your CV, alternatively some forum members may be happy to provide comments, I certainly would.

    - is there any scope for you to do some voluntary work for a charity with their HR tasks? Even if only one day a week?

    - Have you checked out the resources on the CIPD website? There is a career section which help to supplement your valiant efforts, link is:
    www.cipd.co.uk/.../career
    Alternatively, if the link does not work look for:
    Home / Learn, develop and connect / Manage your career

    Good luck, please keep plugging away as it really WILL pay off and let us know if we can help or encourage you further. :-)