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Recruiting from the EU in the event of No Deal

Daniel

Hi all, Happy new year! 

Has anyone seen any definitive guidance from the government about what the position will be for recruiting from EU Countries if there is no Brexit deal? I had been working on the assumption that there would be a lengthy transition period where free movement rules would essentially continue as before. It now seems that No Deal is becoming increasingly likely, as it appears that there has been no movement from either side on the Withdrawal Agreement. Will I be able to recruit from the EU post 30th March if there is No Deal? Will EU applicants need to apply for a visa/work permit and be treated the same as other 3rd country citizens?

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  • The government has created a dedicated site providing guided information for businesses, individuals, UK citizens in the EU and EU citizens in the UK on what they might need to do to prepare for Brexit.

  • in reply to Derek Tong
    So far there's nothing on recruiting from the EU in the event of No Deal, only on the settlement scheme for existing people.

    www.gov.uk/find-eu-exit-guidance-business

    Hopefully things will become clearer over the next few days and weeks when the government has finished tearing itself apart!
  • in reply to Daniel
    That's right, because what no-deal would actually look like is still undetermined (the options that are being hinted at could include some form of free movement).

    Stay tuned, we will update after the vote next week!
  • in reply to Derek Tong
    Thanks Derek. We truly are in "uncharted waters" at the moment!
  • in reply to Daniel
    Would be kind of exciting if the ramifications weren't so serious!
  • in reply to Derek Tong
    I follow Brexit closely, I'm kind of a politics junkie. Yes it is exciting, but also incredible that we have 2.5 years since the referendum and still no clear of what is going to happen. We will see I guess!
  • in reply to Daniel
    I would be amazed if anything becomes clearer in next few "days and weeks" in terms of employment to be honest. Unless by some miracle a deal is done
  • in reply to Daniel
    ….and these "uncharted waters" are those navigated into by the "Sovereign Parliament" that we are going to rely upon for our country's future? The lack of foresight on the employment of EU nationals is only one of its current constituent leadership's failings. Not a political observation, a purely practical one. Would one continue to empower a Board of Directors who not only had no clue on how their company's future labour needs were to be met, but little clue about what their markets were to be, what future supply costs were proposed (or indeed about availability of essential materials at all), or regarding almost any other aspect of their business's strategic future? I think I would be calling an emergency shareholders' meeting to protect my personal life-long investment in the business's future and to answer the recruitment issue with all the others!
  • in reply to Peter
    An in/out referendum on EU membership was promised in the 2015 Conservative manifesto. The Government has known since 24th June 2016 that we had voted to Leave, but seems to have only started planning for No Deal now. I agree that they have been utterly incompetent, but suspect this may be because we have a government who never really intended to implement the result of the referendum.

    This should be an interesting week (in the Chinese proverb sense!).
  • in reply to Daniel

    To be exact: David Cameron wanted to keep his Euro-sceptic radical back-benchers quiet, so promised a referendum he fully expected to vote "stay". Unfortunately (for him and the rest of us) the timing was coincident with a peak in middle-eastern immigration to Europe, fastened on by the media and the likes of UKIP to create an impression of hoards of immigrants pouring through Dover unchecked. Add in the protest-vote discontent with extended constraint on public-spending and there is your marginal vote for exit.

    But the unsavoury truth is that we have nothing unique or of special value to offer Europe other than our service industries like banking, which are neither irreplaceable, or immovable (to Dublin for a start), and that is the reason why we struggled for years to get INTO the (then) "Common Market" in the first place. So why were they EVER going to concede a "sweet deal" for us to stuff two xenophobic fingers in the air and walk away from them?

    There was never going to be a scenario of Europe begging us to stay, or offering a blank check for future trade. Look at the reality and ask "why would they?"

    Even if you choose to believe we can do better alone (trading with Trump's America and China?....We wish!) A great exit-deal from Europe, was NEVER on the cards.

    What is happening in Westminster now is petty party-politics led by two egotistical dogmatists, nothing to do with democracy, or national interest, or even common sense. It is shameful, destructive and divisive, and whatever the outcome we will be a damaged, divided and diminished Nation because of it.

    From once being the object of admiration and aspiration, we have turned ourselves into the object of ridicule and derision. "Deal or no deal"? No. The question now is: "Future, or no future?" and for myself, my now-grown children, and their children also, I dread the almost inevitable answer, whatever the decisions in the weeks to come might be.

    That is my opinion and I respect others may think differently; however I have no further comment to make on the subject.

    P

  • in reply to Peter
    Peter, I think this is the best summing up of the situation I have read.
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