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What the EU Referendum result means for HR...

Steve Bridger

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24 Jun, 2016 10:06

In the light of vote to leave EU, we’ll be contacting CIPD members to advise them what the result means for HR and the world of work.

More to come during the day, which I will post here.

UPDATE: Download Vote Leave Q & A...

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  • In reply to Fiona:

    Hi Fiona

    Thank you for posting that - it's so refreshing to read a factual and balanced / objective commentary

    And, Anne-Marie, is it really all that shocking? - going right back to the Old Testament, in Hosea it observed: "For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind."

    And humankind has changed little if at all since that was written.

    Anyhow, I'm off to try find some shelter in which to cower..........

  • In reply to David:

    Yes, it's all so nasty.
  • Steve Bridger

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    27 Jun, 2016 15:11

    In reply to Marie Bradley:

    Hi Ann-Marie - do you mean 'insults' that have been flying around in your place of work? Or in the wider-world?

    I think the increase in racist incidents is extremely worrying. I hope we are all offering support to those who need it.
  • In reply to Steve Bridger:

    Yes in the wider world. The insults I've seen (from the remain camp) are vicious. There's been many debates at work but everyone has teetered on the verge of insults but have been respectful so far.
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    27 Jun, 2016 15:28

    In reply to Marie Bradley:

    So you were making a general observation. There are different perspectives, but I think we need to be very mindful of what sells newspapers.
  • In reply to Steve Bridger:

    Yes a general observation. The posts I've seen from individuals on social media are alarming. In the workplace, I have been waiting for similar but so far they've been just about passable.
  • In reply to Steve Bridger:

    I've seen plenty of unsavoury comments on social media too, but not at work. What's annoying me more is the effort of some Remain people to have a second referendum. "Yes we support democracy as long as decisions we vote on go our way, otherwise we'll do it again until we get the result we want" - totally wrong IMO. There was a big enough scandal over the Florida re-counts when Bush was elected president in 2000, imagine if we held a nationwide recount by virtue of a second referendum. No doubt if Remain won it, Leave would be campaigning for a 'best of 3' like this is some kind of playground game. >:-(
  • In reply to Keith:

    Hope a bump not a slump or full blow recession. I work in local government and one possible ramification is care for elderly or those with a disability. Many employees working in the care sector are from the EU, working in residential homes that county council has a contractual relationship with to provide a service. There could be serious issues in terms of recruitment and funding if the economy really suffers and an emergency budget requires more spending cuts on the public sector.
  • Steve Bridger

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    27 Jun, 2016 16:00

    In reply to Sam:

    Let's try to keep our comments - on this forum at least - to the possible impact on HR, employment law, recruitment, etc.

    I don't want to be a referee!
  • In reply to Steve Bridger:

    Fair enough Steve, but it was you who was asking about where the vulgarities were coming from which inspired me to respond! ;-)

    I don't have a strong opinion either way, think both outcomes would have had pros and cons so I am sitting back and observing all this arguing and abuse, somewhat shocked by it but trying to focus on the pragmatic side of what it all means.

    On that note - I thought the CIPD publication 'what HR needs to know if the UK votes to leave' is quite handy as an early support document. I hope there will be more of these to come as the picture unravels over the next couple of years.
  • In reply to Paul:

    Hi Paul, Thanks for your question. The CIPD will work to ensure that our qualifications and courses continue to meet the needs of the HR and L&D profession – no matter what the context, and no matter what the future may hold. At present there are still many unknowns, including the specific implications for employment law in the UK and EU. We will continue to work closely with local tutors to contextualise employment law, and help build professional judgement to apply the law in practice. As the full implications of the vote become clearer we will be working with our members and wider communities to understand what support or changes may be needed, and we will keep you updated.

    Ruth Stuart,
    Strategic Projects, People & Strategy, CIPD

  • In reply to Ruth:

    Don't in any way wish to stir the pot containing this particular dog's dinner any more than it already has been agitated, but paste below an email I found quite poignant and touching from a former colleague based in what used to be East Germany.

    He is clearly greatly saddened as well as bewildered / incredulous. We collaborated for many years with immense success to provide UK apprentices with opportunities to train alongside their counterparts in Germany and to experience how they went about vocational training there and of course vice versa. As a spinoff they all benefited greatly from being immersed in life inside a different country and culture and so did we.

    Just a very tiny aspect of the ramifications of all this, but to me at least a very sad and retrograde and indeed potentially dangerous one as regards future peace harmony and prosperity, especially for our nation's young people

    ********************

    Hello David,
    I couldnt belive it, I am completely dismaied about
    the news from UK. I can understand
    people are confused about some
    decision from the EU but it is not a
    reason to cut the line to our common culture
    in the EU. The concequences are too heavy.
    Young people have seen
    their future in the common market.
    I hope, it is time to work on the structure
    from the EU and it is a wake up call
    for all western coutries to change a lot.
    Hope UK suffers not too much.
    Bye bye Training Bridge
    Best wishes
    Peter
  • Steve Bridger

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    28 Jun, 2016 10:34

    Peter Cheese will be on the panel for this free webinar later today...

    www.cebglobal.com/.../brexit.html
  • In reply to Steve Bridger:

    Our local crack team of employment lawyers have been pondering the matter from that perspective:

    www.burnetts.co.uk/.../discrimination-and-brexit
  • In reply to David:

    I think what you have posted here underlines what I think risks being lost through the referendum result, beyond the economic - that of the qualititve experience of working in another country, of enjoying the common ground we have culturally with other countries, and learning from the differences. This is experience that surely enhances the professional profile of anyone working within a diverse and muticultural workforce, wherever that may be.

    I have lived and worked in Germany and in Spain. From my experience there I would venture that, with the result of this referendum, the UK runs the risk of being even further behind other nations in having a workforce that is ready to embrace international trade and collaboration. Other nations are already busy promoting the idea that its workforce must not only be bilingual, but even trilingual - in fact speaking English is taken for granted. Cultrually speaking, UK students will no longer have access to the Erasmus programme.

    It will fall to business to promote international collaboration - not only through trade, but through encouraging exchanges between their own staff and those working for their international peers, and probably also to provide the funding for it. I would not be confident in the UK government picking up where the EU left off in respect of Erasmus or other funding opportunities.